Minutes 03/12/96

Present:				

Edie Lederman		Joe Quaranta		Sarita Kaza		Alan Liu	

Demetre Daskalakis	Yince Loh		Yolanda Troublefield	Melissa Fischer	

Roland Knoblauch	John-Paul Mead		Rich Westreich		Jason Kornberg

Diana Yoon

		

Not Present:		 (* = excused)				

Deowall Chattar		Craig Gordon*		Eric Kim		Nayan Sivamurthy

Seth Dailey		Mike Henry		Stephen Pool	

1. Downtown Sarita is filing a form that registers the Student Council with Student Activities Downtown. This means we can reserve space for free in Loeb Student Center, the Violet Cafe, and so on. See her if you want names or contact numbers.

2. Sweatshirts Final information from the printer about shorts and sweatshirts:

   
   Sweatshirts (grey, print navy) 	24M, 48L, 72 XL 			$27.75 each
   
   Shorts (navy and black, print white)	12 S, 24 M, 24L, 12 XL		$17.75 each
   
   

   Got the OK to go to Rosina and give him a check for the order. He also listed tax separately, but we are a tax exempt organization, so Sarita has to get forms from Rosina and talk to the printer about this part of the bill.

3. Class Elections By tomorrow, everyone has to give Joe the date for their class election. Also, have an outline of your job and its responsibilities and the time committment, to pass on to the next year's candidates, and one each to Joe and to Sarita for records.

4. Curriculum Joe brought in a general curriculum outline from September. This was tentative, and has since undergone several modifications (ie, there is not going to be ICM in the second year even though it was listed as part of the plan).

   The new approach will try and integrate courses using a supercourse director for each segment, limiting lecture hours to 5-10 per week, and adding about 6 hours of discussion per week. Some of this is based on a University of Michigan model, so we will try and get feedback from people there on their system. The proposals for NYU will not copy a model, however, they will just try and look at what is working in other places.

   It is unclear what is being proposed by the subcommittees, this is where we need to work from for now. The informatics committee, on which Edie and John-Paul sit, is also currently working on broad proposals that may be presented in the future, but they need to communicate with the higher committee. The third year subcommittee is currently working on the issue of the basic science elective, and since much can't be done with that now, perhaps they should look at the placements of students in the satellite programs.

5. MD/PhD Representation on CORE Subcommittee This was brought up last week in the bylaws discussion by Roland, and the suggestion was first made by Joel Oppenheim that MD/PhDs should be represented on CORE.

   Roland did not have a prepared list of reasons why or how the MD/PhDs were different or not being represented under the current system, but suggested that since the program is distinct there should be direct representation. He pointed out that MD/PhDs stay at the medical center longer than anyone, and that there is some tension (after the first two years) between MD/PhDs and both the medical and graduate student groups.

   The counter-argument was based on the fact that Student Council requested a reduction in the number of students on the CORE subcommittee to make the group more consistent, cohesive, and effective, and that in theory the MD/PhDs are being represented by their class presidents and by the Sackler rep during the lab years. However, it is unclear whether the MD/PhDs vote for the Sackler rep and whether this is adequate. So Joe closed with four general options which everyone needs to think about and have proposals ready for next week:

   1. No Change in the current system
   2. The addition of an MD/PhD rep on CORE
   3. Restructuring, as Melissa mentioned, by having a 3rd or 4th year VP be an alternate instead of a CORE rep so the number of spots would remain the same.
   4. Any other proposals

   Proposals can be put out to everyone on the council mailing list to get feedback ad so people can be aware of them before the next meeting.

6. Farber Letter Joe just sent it, Dr. Farber should receive it soon.

7. Lounge Update Card has been installed in the lounge and furniture will be in at the end of March, til then the lounge will remain locked. We have to discuss further lounge access issues at a later time. We are also getting curtains in the study space or "fishbowl"(not part of the lounge).

8. AAMC meeting Will be April 17, it would be nice for a council person to attend, it is in Philadelphia.